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Hello Pommania,
Are you likely to have cream coloured puppies this year? or know any breeders that will? i understand that white is a difficult colour to get. I tried contacting a few breeders who seem new to it but they have not yet contacted me back. i would just like a good bred pomeranian with really fluffy pom with a small face and pointy ears. had enough of all the imbred looking poms i keep finding lol. im not worried about colour imperfections. I would just like a puppy as light cream as possible and also at a fairly small size - ideally 3-4lbs. i plan to keep it as a pet; i dont breed myself. im not fussed boy or girl. i dont have children. i just have the one fluffy rabbit : p..... hope to hear from you soon.
Leonie
I welcome, what ways are to illness of the black skin? can you write me a few ways? I know around certainly the castration can help but not absolutely... my dog is 3 years old and for a year has open countries without hair and the skin is black, in Poland doctors don't want to admit that know this illness or don't know for her... this week I am going with it to the treatment of the castration, I still learnt around it will be necessary to lead the gluten-free diet perhaps improvement, has low sheep's of thyroid hormones, the rally is also medicines overcome as many as 30 days, there is no improvement... perhaps should still do something? I am calling for help to the mail
hi, i wish adopt a retired pomeranian, can i do that if i m from romania? thanks
Hi hannah,
Unfortunatly this is a problem that groomers do not understand about double coated breeds like poms. They think it is ok to shave poms down to the skin and whilst for some poms it is a great idea if you live in a hot country and they can be a lot more comfortable it not good for a short term hair cut. Google "post clipping alopecia" There is not a lot know about it but there is some information out there. Speaking from experiance and from talking to vets and dermo specialists you will find it will take 2 years for your poms coat to start to go back properly. You do get the undercoat back first and then the gaurd hair will start to come in much later so sadly it will be a good couple of years before they will ever be in full coat again.
Always fully quiz any groomer you want to use. Find out what experiance they have with double coated breeds and get them to go into deatil about the correct care for the coat and what brushes they use and silly little things like what direction the coat should be brushed in and ask them what line brushing is? Never be afraid to ask too many questions, if they don;t like it don;t use them!
Hope this helps
Zoe x
Hannah says...I read all about BSD/Alopecia X on your site and it is very helpful, but still leaves me wondering. I have a 22 month old male purebred pom who i took the the groomers almost a year ago and they shaved him (without my permission) into a lion cut and his hair on his back is still not grown back fully. The stuff that has come in is mainly the undercoat I think, because it is much more fluffy and soft. It is coming in in patches on his back, but more full on his butt, legs and belly. I have tried adding suppliments to his food, he eats all natural, I brush him regularly but nothing seems to work. I have talked to numerous vets, groomers, etc. but no one seems to be able to give me any answers. I feel so bad for him and just want his hair to grow back long and full more than anything. I have also heard this called "shave shock". Today a new groomer mentioned "carding" or "hand stripping". Any information or tips would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks again!
I read all about BSD/Alopecia X on your site and it is very helpful, but still leaves me wondering. I have a 22 month old male purebred pom who i took the the groomers almost a year ago and they shaved him (without my permission) into a lion cut and his hair on his back is still not grown back fully. The stuff that has come in is mainly the undercoat I think, because it is much more fluffy and soft. It is coming in in patches on his back, but more full on his butt, legs and belly. I have tried adding suppliments to his food, he eats all natural, I brush him regularly but nothing seems to work. I have talked to numerous vets, groomers, etc. but no one seems to be able to give me any answers. I feel so bad for him and just want his hair to grow back long and full more than anything. I have also heard this called "shave shock". Today a new groomer mentioned "carding" or "hand stripping". Any information or tips would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks again!
A FANTSTICK SITE ,
i have lert mor on your site then i have redup in the years that i have bin folowing the breed,i have just got my ferst pup and hope to showe but i think he,s on the tall size, or at leest up here in scotland .hope i get a charns to see you and your boutifall dogs for my self one day .all the best mark rawlings
Hi Grace
I'm in Frome Somerset and he is £1,000
email me direct or give me a call. pommaniapoms@live.co.uk 01373670162
grace says...Thank you very much Zoe I've dropped Tina an email. The black and tan on your available page is beautiful though, how much would he be and where are you based? Many thanks, Grace
Rebecca you cannot compare a large breed who averages 8 puppies in a litter to a small breed that averages 2 in a litter. 4 pups from show quality poms is very rare. Also if you are buying from a reputable show person they will only be breeding to keep something so some litters nothing will be sold but still cost money. Not sure how you got 10k from 4 pups. the average price of a pup is 1500 x 4 is 6k and then you have to take expenses out from that. Stud fees, vet, fees, food. Forgetting the showing costs and travel and everything else involved. Then if you've had 4 pups in a year chances are you kept 2 so only 2 to sell at 3k. Which will all be swollowed up by the next lot of shows and coming litter. If you import then you have no chance of braking even at all as they cost about 6k by the time you have got them to the UK.
No one makes money in poms if they are doing it properly and not just breeding for profit without a thought for the breed.
Also a pom is not a low mantinance breed. there coat does take considerable care to keep it healthy and looking good.
rebecca kershaw says...Yes, I am talking about a flat coated retriever, this breed has been a favorite in our family for decades and we've only ever purchased from top breeders and never come across prices anything like the ones breeders are asking for the pomeranians. My question is why is this breed being sold for so much more than most other purebred breeds? I can't help feeling it's popularity is playing a factor here. I have read your prices page and although I agree with some reasons I strongly disagree that you can justify high prices by including things such as reading books and articles and petrol/time out going to shows.Your prices work out at around 10k per litter of 4 puppies, therefor 2 litters a year would provide you with more than most young peoples annual wage, this seems more than an adequate amount to break even if not make a profit. Sadly, while I have had a wonderful older rescue dog in the past most people do want those early years to build that tight bond with their dogs. I am not writing this to attack pomeranian breeders, I am simply trying to understand why after looking into purchasing one the prices are so colosal for a dog that many consider one of the lower maintenance breeds.
no sorry i don't do whites. There are currenty only 3 breeders with them in the UK all new to poms and not likely to have anything for sale until much later in the year. Would be worth looking at german spitz klein if the colour is important to you
regards
zoe
anisha says...hi do you have any ice white poms for sale
Yes, I am talking about a flat coated retriever, this breed has been a favorite in our family for decades and we've only ever purchased from top breeders and never come across prices anything like the ones breeders are asking for the pomeranians. My question is why is this breed being sold for so much more than most other purebred breeds? I can't help feeling it's popularity is playing a factor here. I have read your prices page and although I agree with some reasons I strongly disagree that you can justify high prices by including things such as reading books and articles and petrol/time out going to shows.Your prices work out at around 10k per litter of 4 puppies, therefor 2 litters a year would provide you with more than most young peoples annual wage, this seems more than an adequate amount to break even if not make a profit. Sadly, while I have had a wonderful older rescue dog in the past most people do want those early years to build that tight bond with their dogs. I am not writing this to attack pomeranian breeders, I am simply trying to understand why after looking into purchasing one the prices are so colosal for a dog that many consider one of the lower maintenance breeds.
Zoe says...Where do i start. I hope to god you are talking about a flat coat retrevier because there is not such thing as a flat coat pom. That is called a mutt. I would be very interested who this top breeder was if they sold your sister in law a pure bred flat coat pom because they need reporting to the breed clubs.
The prices you have been quoted are correct i strongly reccomend you read this page http://www.pommania.co.uk/prices.htm
Breeding correctly and for health and improvement does not come cheap and people do not realise the time and costs involved. None of us who are doing it properly ever make a profit.
There are a number of older pom available and sadly some end up in rescue so those not able to afford a puppy still have plenty of chance to own a pom within there price range.
With all the additional testing being brought in and fees charged by the kennel club it is highly likely prices will continue to rise.
Feel free to email me directly or call if you want to go into more detail.
regards
zoe
Hi grace, try Tina she is over your way. www.altina.co.uk
i do have a 6 month old B&T on my available page as well.
http://www.pommania.co.uk/puppiesavailable.htm
Grace says...Dear Pommania, my partner and I live in the rural outskirts of Cambridge and we have been looking for a male puppy pomeranian to start our family. I'm struggling to find a purebred breeder/puppies anywhere in Suffolk/Cambridgeshire area. If you have any suggestions it would be super.
Many thanks,
Grace
Where do i start. I hope to god you are talking about a flat coat retrevier because there is not such thing as a flat coat pom. That is called a mutt. I would be very interested who this top breeder was if they sold your sister in law a pure bred flat coat pom because they need reporting to the breed clubs.
The prices you have been quoted are correct i strongly reccomend you read this page http://www.pommania.co.uk/prices.htm
Breeding correctly and for health and improvement does not come cheap and people do not realise the time and costs involved. None of us who are doing it properly ever make a profit.
There are a number of older pom available and sadly some end up in rescue so those not able to afford a puppy still have plenty of chance to own a pom within there price range.
With all the additional testing being brought in and fees charged by the kennel club it is highly likely prices will continue to rise.
Feel free to email me directly or call if you want to go into more detail.
regards
zoe
rebecca kershaw says...Dear Pommania, I've contacted a few pomeranina breeders recently regarding purchasing a puppy. The prices I have been given are between 1200 and 2000 pounds. I understand that a lot of effort goes into these breeding these dogs but these prices seem rediculously high. My sister in law brought a purebred Flat Coat for half that price last year from a top breeder. I think puppy farms are horrendous as well as the amount of interbreeding that's happening these days (and would never pruchase from either) but I have to say the breeders are not making it easy for the general public to easily purchase these dogs when they are putting them up at such greedy prices. I will be purchasing my pomeranian from a breeder as I am fortunate enough to have the money to but I know most people wanting to start new families do not have that sort of money on top of the initial vet bills/beds/food etc you have to splash out on. So many breeders have an often quite aggressive section on their website about who not to buy from and not to encourage and that they are all for the future success of the breed, I can't help thinking well, people from all walks of life choose a pomeranian as their dog because they are such a beautiful breed, so why are you making it so difficult for people to afford them of course someone will choose the £500 dog down the road against the £1800 one that in their eyes looks just the same.
I condemn puppy farms/interbreeding but feel that if these breeders want to make this beautiful breed better and stabe as we all do, they should consider lowering their prices so it's a little eaiser to get a purebred.
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