Pommania Pomeranians 

Show Kennels in England.

What the KC say the KCABS is about

Requirements and Recommendations

The Scheme currently has the following requirements:

Accredited Breeders must:

  1. Ensure that all breeding stock is Kennel Club registered
  2. Hand over the dog's registration certificate at time of sale if available, or forward it to the new owner as soon as possible. Explain any endorsements that might pertain and obtain written and signed confirmation from the new owner, at or before the date on which the dog is physically transferred, that the new owner is aware of the endorsement(s), regardless of whether or not the endorsed registration certificate is available.
  3. Follow Kennel Club policy regarding maximum age and number/frequency of litters.
  4. Permanently identify breeding stock by DNA profile, microchip, or tattoo.
  5. Make use of health screening schemes, relevant to their breed, on all breeding stock. These schemes include DNA testing, hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia and inherited eye conditions.  Current health requirements under the ABS (pdf).
  6. Socialise the puppies and provide written advice, in the Puppy Sales Wallet, on continuation of socialisation, exercise and future training.
  7. Provide written advice, in the scheme Puppy Sales Wallet, on feeding and worming programmes.
  8. Provide a written record, in the Puppy Sales Wallet, on the immunisation measures taken.
  9. Provide reasonable post-sales telephone advice.
  10. Inform buyers of the requirements and the recommendations that apply to Kennel Club Accredited Breeders as well as the existence of the complaints procedure.
  11. Draw up a contract of sale for each puppy and provide a copy in the Puppy Sales Wallet.

 In addition there are a number of recommendations:

Accredited Breeders should:

  1. Make sure that whelping facilities accord with requirements for good practice
  2. Ensure that contract of sale clearly lays out to the buyer the nature and details of any guarantee given (e.g. time limit) and/or any provisions for refund or return and replacement of puppy. If endorsements are being used the contract should also explain why these have been placed and under what circumstances they would be removed (if any). The contract should be signed and dated by both breeder and purchaser, showing that both have agreed to these terms.
  3. Commit to help, if necessary, with the re-homing of a dog, for whatever reason, throughout the dog's lifetime.
  4. Follow relevant breed health screening recommendations.

What Reputable Breeders Say

 
The KCAB Scheme has merely become a form of advertising. When people ask me if I am a KC Accredited Breeder I always say that I am not, I try to be a good, reputable breeder and have no need to advertise and will not be associated with such a scheme.

I am sure it was never the intention of the KC for it to have happened this way but as always there are those who are quick to take advantage of any flaw in the system which enables them to make a quick profit. As always the dogs pay through the propagation of the puppy farmers

The only criteria is to pay £20 up front and fill in a form. Anyone approaching the KC for the name of a breeder is given one from the KCABS whilst reputable people with a long history of producing sound healthy and winning stock, even a long list of Champions and KC Stud Book Numbers are overlooked. A lot of these people do not feel they should be co-erced into having to pay £20 to advertise.

A person may become a KC accredited breeder without having owned a dog, touched a dog, even seen a dog, let alone actually successfully bred a dog.

If you were/are a top class breeder, would you wish/need to be accredited on a scheme that has such loose qualification criteria?

If you were/are a puppy buyer and you placed your trust in a breeder who was advertising their KC accredited status, would it alarm you to learn that they may have been accredited having less dog ownership experience than you?
 

To be an Accredited Breeder,
It's no more than any bog-ordinary breeder should do, and a lot less than a good one will do, without being charged for the privilege.


You need to be extremely careful when choosing a breeder. The biggest safeguard you can have is doing your homework thoroughly before even approaching a breeder. The fact that a breeder may be a member of the Siberian Husky Club of Great Britain or the Scottish Siberian Husky Club is no guarantee that the breeder is ethical. Nor is membership of the Kennel Club accredited breeder scheme. Over the years, we have come across some appalling puppy farmers who have been members. We regard ourselves as ethical breeders and were members of the SHCGB, but left because we feel the British club is not protecting the best interests of the breed.


Incidentally, a KC accredited breeder is not really any guarantee of quality as the breeders are not inspected by the KC and evidence of all relevant, current health tests should be produced to you in respect of the sire and dam....hips scores (below the breed mean which is currently 15), elbow scores (only a score of 0 is acceptable in a breed with such a huge gene pool) and clear eye tests which must have been carried out within the last 12 months. Membership of one of the breed clubs is often a reliable indicator of a responsible breeder as breed club members have to agree to abide by a code of ethics which is generally more stringent that thn KC accredited breeder scheme.


Many good & responsible breeders in all breeds are very concerned about the implications of the KCABS.
A lot of caring breeders (not only in IG's) feel that this scheme is not in the best interests of pedigree dogs.
However, it does allbeit inadvertently seem to be turning into an advertising medium for puppy farmers!


KC accreditation in no way means a breeder is to be recommended, or their stock is any good, or their knowledge of breeding pracices, puyppy rearing is satisfactory - for £20 we can all be accredited breeders.m When the KC is happy to list people who have never bred a litter of a breeds, and have had scant experience of exhibiting/ owning the breed and certainly have had no success in the ring whatsoever, as accredited bvreeders of that breeds, simply because they have paid the £20 to become a member is quite frankly a disgrace, and is misleading (to put it mildly) to prospective new owners who think that these breeders must be ok if recommended by the KC.
How anyone can possibly have the audacity to actually apply for accreditation never having bred a litter of the breed they are appliyng to be accredited for is beyond me.
I personally would never wish my name to be associated with such a scheme as long as they admit all and sundry, and there is no real policing of the scheme.

VERY MUCH MY OWN THOUGHTS ON THIS


all you have to do is pay £20 (or thereabouts) and agree to do x,y,and z. - which is not actually enforced anyway!
accreditation means absolutely nothing other than youve said youll abide by a few (weak) rules and paid ur money



If only the general public could get the concept of genuine 'research' into their thick skulls we wouldn't have backstreet breeders, puppy farmers and those with no experience at all claiming to be 'Accredited Breeders'!!!! A little common sense would go a long way to educate puppy buyers. They're just being fooled


What i Say

On the face of it the KCABS seems a very good idea but as someone else said any good responisble breeder will be doing this anyway so what is the point of joining the scheme?

The KCABS is known to have back yard breeders and puppy farmers on it. People who have no interest in the breeds they have and are just putting any two dogs together. It doesn't matter to them what they produce and if it is a good example of the breed or will benefit the breed. Many have never been to a show let alone entred one and with all the irish puppy farm dogs which have come over and been put on the KC registry these dogs are often nothing like the breed they are meant to be. They just want the money!

In my opinion the KCABS should be a something you have to earn like the JW the SHCM STUD BOOK ENTRY. Nothing that will be out of most peoples reach like a CH can be but for people who go the extra length and do things that make them worthy of the certificate not just for filling in a form and handing over there money.

  1. Being a member of at least one breed club? Then your application would need to be seconded by the breed club you are a member of.
  2. Must have qualified for crufts?
  3. Must use a stud owned or bred by an accredited breeder once on the scheme
  4. maybe have bred by classes at shows to gain the title of accredited breeder like you do for JW.

Just a few ideas.

 Please let me know what you think, abusive comments will be deleted